Ct River Shootout Bartons Results

[davem]

We had 10 boats Saturday at Bartons Cove. A couple of the regulars took the day off, but we had some new teams. Thank you to all that fished. The top 5 teams finished as follows:
1st Keith Robitialle & Jim Deforest 16.92lbs
2nd Dave Morrissette & Todd Brisebois 15.60lbs
3rd Art Quenniville & Ron Walhoud 14.72lbs
4th Chris Martens & Scott Leblanc 12.96
5th Ray Labarre & Ritch Labarre 11.72

Lunker Largemouth Keith & Jim 4.86lbs
Lunker Smallmouth Dave & Todd 3.40lbs

Our next tournament is Saturday August 8th at the oxbow section from 6-2 We are launching from Sportsman's marina. As always, everyone is welcome. If you have any questions call or email me 413-626-8286 ctrivershootout@yahoo.com. Visit lunkerusa.com for details.

[fishingphilb]

Gary P didn't win?

[JeffA]

i dont think he fished it.

[seabass]

nice win smalliehunter!!

[Gary P]

I was in california but thanks for the vote on confidence!

[Rivernut]

Nice weight for Barton's Keith. Ron and I took first and lunker at the Freedom T at Hinsdale that day.

[luckymf7]

I was not happy at all with this tourny this time the rules were not clear to me at all i got there kinda late and i have never fished it before needless was my first tourny by myself with my brother i guess i fished in the red zone for a total of 15-20min on the corner in the cove caugh 2 gators well my brother did and was caught by who the f knows who and no one would say! saying i caugh bass there i would never lie about this and got disqualified. i was pissed i would have not have won the thing but would have had biggest lunker largemounth 5.5lbs NOT HAPPY DAVE paid all that money for **** should have gave it back to me.

[topher]

I was not happy at all with this tourny this time the rules were not clear to me at all i got there kinda late and i have never fished it before needless was my first tourny by myself with my brother i guess i fished in the red zone for a total of 15-20min on the corner in the cove caugh 2 gators well my brother did and was caught by who the f knows who and no one would say! saying i caugh bass there i would never lie about this and got disqualified. i was pissed i would have not have won the thing but would have had biggest lunker largemounth 5.5lbs NOT HAPPY DAVE paid all that money for **** should have gave it back to me.

wow, that does kind of suck!

[SmallieHunter]

Fishing inside the red bouys is a NO! NO! It clearly says it at the boat ramp with a big white sign. I know Dave didn't say anything about the red bouys just about the NH line cause it is understood that we don't go past the red bouys. Fishin past the RED bouys is just like driving with the big engine on with no life jackets. There was another team that was going to get protested for Driving with no life jackets even though it was for like 45 seconds. Both are instant grounds for a DQ!!!! But that team opted not to weigh in any fish.

I got DG'd there a couple of weeks ago for a nonboater weighing 1 of his 2 fish and I quess i had his other fish on my side of the livewell.

Live and Learn....

[SmallieHunter]

Thanks Dave nice job yourself....

I'm on a roll myself (2 in a row) but not like yours..

See you at Champlain next weekend.

[Capt.Shay]

I was not happy at all with this tourny this time the rules were not clear to me at all i got there kinda late and i have never fished it before needless was my first tourny by myself with my brother i guess i fished in the red zone for a total of 15-20min on the corner in the cove caugh 2 gators well my brother did and was caught by who the f knows who and no one would say! saying i caugh bass there i would never lie about this and got disqualified. i was pissed i would have not have won the thing but would have had biggest lunker largemounth 5.5lbs NOT HAPPY DAVE paid all that money for **** should have gave it back to me.

Wow, I mean Wow ! What the he11 do you think those red boys were for? Did you think it was a specially marked off area just for you because YOU paid an entrance fee? Here is a clue for you: Not only should you not be fishing tournys, you should not be driving a boat: and if the above statement is any indication, you probably shouldn't be allowed to drive to the ramp.

You want your money back! Your Gosh Dang lucky you didn't get fined.

And people wonder why other people don't like tournys Notsure

[seabass]

he he....oops....was that out loud?Tongue1

[davem]

First of all, I feel that if you are going to be a boater you need to know the rules of the water. With that being said, If I was the one who saw you in an off limits area I would have gone up to you and told you so you wouldn't get DQ'd.

Being the tournament director, once a rule infraction is presented to me and that team wants to file a formal protest, I have to investigate the situation. The team that was disqualified admitted to being in an off limits area. knowingly or unknowingly, they broke a rule. The correct thing to do was to disqualify the team.

The last thing I want to do is disqualify any team. I am trying to put together a solid tournament trail that everyone wants to come and fish without alot of restrictions or bull.... A trail that has good payouts, that make it worth running your boat up and down the river. A trail that offers somethings that other trails don't, like a free raffle with great prizes donated from its sponsors. It is alot of work putting something like this together. Sometimes I don't feel like all the hard work is worth it.

Dave.

[Rivernut]

Favorite quote of the week - "...was my first tourny by myself with my brother..." WTF? Siamese twins? Blogging while intoxicated? My wife, an English teacher, almost fell out of bed from laughing while reading this! I'm sorry I missed the show. Is it too late to participate? Jerry Jerry Jerry!! Bald Eagles are no longer on the Endangered Species list..I smell a pork barrel, but that's another discussion. Hang in there Dave. Maybe we need a local version of Bassmaster University scaled down for the simple redneck folks? Where's Chigger when you need him?

[CaptianQ]

sorry I don't fish tournements so I'm clueless on the subject, but have always felt that there are too many rules in the abstracts now, Why do you add more rules ? What's the matter with just using the abstracs ? Life jackets a rule when the motor is on ? Kind of like the seat belt laws that I hate also. Of course my boat doesn't go 140 mph sideways either Laughing1

I understand the bouy thing as that is a rule of that body of water so you don't fall over the dam, right ? Not something you guys just add for the sake of it correct ?

Sounds like tourney guys are just trying to be politically correct or am I missing something.

I saw another thread by Gary P and they had blocked off part of the place that he likes to fish, What do you tourney guys do, change the theater to suit who's in charge ? I don't think the Bassmasters tell Vandam he can only fish in bad water to help out the losers!

sounds like golf to me Yuck1

This crap is why more guys don't get invloved in tourneys. WAY to many rules. Get rid of all the extra crap rules and you would have more folks involved.

I fish to relax and unwind, not to be thinking about rules all day.

don't kill me here I all ready said I was clueless about tourneys. Just asking ?'s Eyeball Roller

[seabass]

IMO...not that restictive capt, and i dont fish many tourny's.
life jackets/kill switch - all safety issues and common sense.
the bouys r there for safety.
the restriction that garyp was reffering to was....MA waters only.

[CaptianQ]

IMO...not that restictive capt, and i dont fish many tourny's.
life jackets/kill switch - all safety issues and common sense.
the bouys r there for safety.
the restriction that garyp was reffering to was....MA waters only.

But I still think too many rules Cry1 Rule infractions, DQ'd, off limit area's, teams filing FORMAL PROTESTS, it might not be restrictive, but rules none the less.

I thought I saw Garyp saying they were normally allowed to fish more of the place, but because his team wins alot/always they banned that part of the river for all. They still won, I thought that was great as they tried to rien him in and it didn't help. These are the things I'm talking about, changing the rules to help the losers. My sister used to do that to me playing Monoploly. Laughing1 Laughing1 Laughing1

You know kinda like kids playing soccer but don't keep score so nobody feels bad Cry1 Cry1 Cry1 Cry1 Cry1 Cry1 boo hoo.

[Rivernut]

You are missing something. The buoys they are talking about are the ones around the island at Barton's to keep people away from the Bald Eagle nest, not the dam. That is off limits to everyone, not just tournament boats. Most off limit areas in tournaments are wildlife sanctuaries which are off limits to everyone. At tournament meetings these places are usually discussed so that it is clear to everyone to keep them out of trouble and make it legit legal competition. You have to have clear rules. Imagine playing baseball with no rules. How would you know who won? The thing Gary was talking about was when they draw an arbitrary line where nobody can fish past. Lately it has been the Dave & Gary jet boat rule. Often the people making the rules don't know how to navigate through these places because they have become pretty boys and are more concerned with not scratching their boat than they are about learning how to catch fish and navigate the river. Several people at the Bellows T asked us why we were there..."don't you know the upper area us off limits?". Our reply was why are you here...to donate to us again? And my standard - "it's not my fault that you bought the wrong boat". All in fun, but a little not too. And then we kicked their butts for the third straight time and win #43 for my current boat. The other exclusionary rule is what I call the jet boat tax where the organization adds a membership fee of say $100 to keep us from cherry picking their river events. That has not worked out for them either. I know I have a target on my back and I'm overly cautious about obeying all of the rules like the eagle island or the no wake zones.

[CaptianQ]

You are missing something. The buoys they are talking about are the ones around the island at Barton's to keep people away from the Bald Eagle nest, not the dam. That is off limits to everyone, not just tournament boats. Most off limit areas in tournaments are wildlife sanctuaries which are off limits to everyone. At tournament meetings these places are usually discussed so that it is clear to everyone to keep them out of trouble and make it legit legal competition. You have to have clear rules. Imagine playing baseball with no rules. How would you know who won? The thing Gary was talking about was when they draw an arbitrary line where nobody can fish past. Lately it has been the Dave & Gary jet boat rule. Often the people making the rules don't know how to navigate through these places because they have become pretty boys and are more concerned with not scratching their boat than they are about learning how to catch fish and navigate the river. Several people at the Bellows T asked us why we were there..."don't you know the upper area us off limits?". Our reply was why are you here...to donate to us again? And my standard - "it's not my fault that you bought the wrong boat". All in fun, but a little not too. And then we kicked their butts for the third straight time and win #43 for my current boat. The other exclusionary rule is what I call the jet boat tax where the organization adds a membership fee of say $100 to keep us from cherry picking their river events. That has not worked out for them either. I know I have a target on my back and I'm overly cautious about obeying all of the rules like the eagle island or the no wake zones.

As those laws/rules are there for everyone, no need to reitirate state laws/rules of the water. The baseball analogy is perfect, good hitters don't get 2 strikes, they get 3 just like all players. THey don't change the rules on the fly to level the playing field. Which is what seems to be happening to you guys.

Rules of the tourney, sure start at 7 end at 3, how much wieght do you have, great you win!

So were you guys breaking the rules by fishing to far north at bellows ? Or did they mean just you can't be there? See where I'm going here ? Boy I'd be pissed off if someone tried to talk to me while I was fishing, especially a tourny. I hate it when another boat gets within a mile or 2 of me, never mind actually talking to me, But I have assburgers and don't like people Laughing1

[seabass]

well good try


it wasnt a "try".....if u read the post....it was my opinion.

[CaptianQ]

it wasnt a "try".....if u read the post....it was my opinion.

Very true, you got me MachineGun MachineGun MachineGun

[Rivernut]

The new special rule for the recent T that we fished at Bellows Falls was no fishing past the covered bridge. So we fished within the 20 miles below it. In the past we have gone beyond it at times - which is all legal and public water. I guess they thought we had been catching our winning fish up there, but they were mistaken. We see full-sized conventional fiberglass boats up there and way beyond, but the folks in charge are afraid of that area. There were at least 2 conventional boats fishing up to the bridge long before we made our way up. Maybe at the next one we will have to fish with one hand tied behind our backs? Perhaps baitcasting gear only (that's going too far!), or blindfolds maybe?

[CaptianQ]

I think that's funny, keep showing them the business end of your rod

Fishing1

By the way, congrats on your winning ways Thumbsup sounds like you are having fun doing T'S

[Gary P]

if it was my first tourney, I would have been there 2 hours early and read every rule. Rules are there to make things fair, and if the joker thinks he should still get lunker paid after he broke the rules, he should give it up and fish for trout! in reality, most tournies have simple rules...be safe catch fish in a legal manner in areas designated by the Tourney director, that's it....... some other gray areas include speed limits and getting tickets. some directors say if you get a ticket by the EP then you are dq's but other's don't care. the Ct river has a 45 mph speed limit and most rules say you have to obey all local and state laws, RN and I could dq' half the field in every tourney we fish as we are going 45 in the jet and getting passed left and right. but they over look that in the morning. Even the BAssmasters got waivers for morning take off on the Ct river. But as an angler, you have to know where the off limits are and no wake zones, that's pretty much it. and if you don't know, get their early and ask!!!!!!!!!

other stupid things we have seen over the years: bringing in extra fish and culling at the ramp, driving without your vest on right in front of the ramp and then having the nerve to argue it with the 10 witnesses that saw you do it. only a couple of times have I seen unsportmanlike conduct.

Live and learn~

[LunkerUSA]

It was a WILDLIFE SANCTUARY marked off by RED Buoys!!!! Come on now. Please stop all of this nonsense. If the Environmental Police were out that day he would have gotten a ticket, boat searched, and possibly arrested if the officer wanted to. Nobody likes to protest anybody, especially me, however in these circumstances you have to. It just isn’t fair to all competing in the tournament, whether they caught any fish in the WILDLIFE SANCTUARY or not. In regards to getting their money back…no way. That is not how bass tournament fishing works. Ask Kevin VanDam, Skeet Reese, or Gerald Swindle if they got their money back when they were DQ’d in recent years???
I hope they acknowledge their mistake and return to the CTRS tournament circuit. It is not like they broke the rules on purpose, it was just a novice/amature mistake and everyone in the tournament group would really like to see them back.
Hope to see them and ready to compete at the next CTRS OPEN TOURNAMENT (Oxbow Section of the CT River on August 8th, Launching from the Sportsman's Marina, 6am to 2pm!)
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[Rivernut]

Anyone care to warn them about the poorly marked wildlife sanctuary there?

[SmallieHunter]

NOPE!!!!


Better get out the rules book for that one. Don't go under the bridge!!!!!!

[luckymf7]

o well i am not going to cry over it anymore but saying i should have done this and that come on. U don't need to bag on me for it guys i am only 24 u need to start some where anyway. Its my falt i know. I said i did it as soon as he asked me its not like i was lied about it i just didn''t know about the red bouys. I really though it was a shallow area bouy lol. I know how to fish and will keep fishing with u guys that fish the river tournys and learn what i did wrong just like any other angler, u are all nice guys to fish with u did your job dave not going to bag on u 4 that what u did JUST PLAIN OLD SUX after catchin the biggest fish of the day u knowFishing1 O well better luck next time

[Rivernut]

What did you say you caught that bass on?

[edrz20]

Bubblegum Sluggo!

[SmallieHunter]

A Frog!!!!!!

[luckymf7]

my biggest was on a 3.5" pumpkin yum craw. 5.5lbs largemouth my go to bait. if u were askin me