flyfishing with bubbles ???

[knotreelly]

on a spinning rod & reel setup, not sure if this is what it's called but i'm gonna give this a serious attempt. not sure how many do or have tried it, but i never hear anyone talk about it. my reasoning is the swift river, which i would describe as a narrow river, wide stream, high banks with trees and high brush, which from my experiece (little) with flyfishing, is that its hard to back cast. now i know there are ff that can roll cast and other ways. the artificial only-no ive bait-area and it's season is the reason i want to start. is this a form of fly fishing and would this be within the laws in the flyfishing area above the bridge?

[Sledneck]

bubbles????do you mean bobbers/strike indicators??????Notsure

[knotreelly]

it's a clear 3" long tear drop shaped casting bubble. i should have called it a practice casting plug, clear plastic, no hook with a leader on it or tippet, 3-6' length to a fly.

[Sledneck]

why not just go with a large strike indicator w/ alot of floatant, serves the same purpose, but alot easier to cast.

[knotreelly]

poor explanation on my part, using it on a spinning outfit to flyfish.

[Sledneck]

oh..lol...that fly fishing only above the bridge, i wouldn't try using a fly on spinning tackle...

[buckmanjr]

If you dont have waders, get some! Fly fishing the swift is easy with a pair of waders.

[Bigbear]

is this a form of fly fishing and would this be within the laws in the flyfishing area above the bridge?
KnotLaughing1Laughing1 sure on that one I would make a phone call to the gamewarden and ask.

[knotreelly]

what makes it illegal, your tossing a fly. waders, your point. using a 6-7' spinning rod, standing in with the swift with or without waders, your 4-7' from the bank and your fishing the other bank to rising fish and there are trees behind and overhead, from past experience and observing other flyfishers from the higer banks it just seemed to me this would be an easier way to present a fly with everything around and above you in the swift. now if your standing in the middle of the swift and your tossing either up or down river you have room for your backcast i understand. the swift is a narrow piece of water as you know. does your equipment need to start with the word fly to make it called fly fishing, or can you use a stick, string and fly to be fly fishing?

[Sledneck]

most of the swift you can back cast what you need to, you are only using on average 10 to 15' of line and you have room behind you if you cast on the diagonal up stream when wading. the roll cast is very easy especially with the short line you use at the swift, raise the rod tip and let the line come to you, when the line stops, roll it out to where you wanna cast , point the tip to where you want the fly to go.

[Sledneck]

good question knot.....can't answer that one...

[knotreelly]

by the way sledneck and jr. if your heading to the swift this weekend, the last couple of days theirs been a black flying ant display on the water. check your box for a couple. very nice size browns and rainbows, and plenty of smaller brookies, alot of pressure from anglers this week.

[noresman]

I have used the casting bubbles you are talking about with success on the swift before. Not sure what the law is regarding using one of them with spinning gear on the fly fishing only area of the river. Even if it is legal I bet you would get some pretty dirty looks at the least. A lot of people who fly fish there are purists and wouldn't take to it too kindly. Avoid the greif and fish down stream of the Rt 9 bridge. Just remember from rt 9 to the cady lane bridge is also catch and release this time of year if I'm not mistaken.

[knotreelly]

thanks norseman, theres no grief, if it's legal, its legal. purists and dirty looks, hey, face to face is fine if they want to discuss it. why should a fly fisher get special priviledges. if its legal. rt 9 to cady, sounds stupid but couldn't you put a small thomas or spinner on a fly rod setup? its all artificial. i remember when that area was taken away from the general fisherman, lets make cady ln. and on to bait fishing only? this makes as much sense as closing areas to any special groups. fishing is fishing. anybody use a small spinning reel on a fly rod, i have many times. what i needed was length of rod in confined areas like swift while wading.

[Fishstory]

Knot, I asked the Trangese brothers John and Tony that question this spring " their both EPO's" the answer is NO.. I thought the same way you did, but fly fishing is catorgized as using a fly reel and rod.....makes no sense to me either, and probally wouldn't hold up in court when your trying to get you equipment back Tongue1 ...................but who wants to find out????Beerchug

[knotreelly]

thanks for the info, just seems funny that on one side of the bridge you can use a spinning rod setup with a fly on the end and this is usable under artificial only but on the other side of the bridge it's illegal in fly fishing only.

[Crazy Joe]

Water bobber it sounds like to me! You fill it with different amounts of water so it floats at different depths , attach it and put a fly on with a 2 foot leader off the back of the bobber.They work great for Trout and pan fish.Notsure

[malaplan]

Yes, the old bubble and fly method. It allows you to fill the casting bubble with water and gives enough weight to cast the fly a good distance. The casting bubble also causes a pretty big (and loud) splash. The distance cast makes it a little more difficult to set the hook on the fish.

Still it works pretty well on stocked trout (as does a variant method, bubble and Power Bait).

[knotreelly]

this is all i wanted to see is if others have fished this way, malaplan, thanks and welcome, joe, your always there, thanks.

[Real_Ryan]

Knotreelly, want to know more about fly and bobbers, check out this site, its not a forum, but a past MA Angler of the Year is the one that taught me about it... not that I would ever try it, because I am one of those snobby fly fishing purists.
www.offthehookfishing.com (http://www.offthehookfishing.com)

and its not using a fly rod and reel that makes it flyfishing, how many guys do you see trolling with that set-up? Thats not fly fishing, the defination is using a rod and line where the line propels the bait to the water. Some states, such as Maine have laws regarding what constitutes a "fly" also. Be careful of this, most flyfisherman would be guilty if they decided to enforce it, things such as styrofoam poppers or other 100% synthetic flies don't meet their criteria.

[knotreelly]

thanks for the info, nice site he has there

[seabass]

ive used a clear water bobber and fly for many years. half fill the bobber with the fly about 5ft away and reel in slow. otis, mattawa and many other ponds and lakes it does real well. ive tried trolling it behind a canoe with good success.Fishing1

[knotreelly]

thanks for the comeback seabass

[ThomT]

can be deadly at puffers pond over by where the brook comes in wade out on the sand bar and cast it out and slowly and I do mean slowly twitch and reel it in. ThomT